Bay Area Harerian Discussion Group

"Afocha" Split

Published on July 28, 2004 By 2_ignite In Misc

Here you may have your say if and ony if you have knowledge of what has transpired before the split of the "Afocha" and what ideas you may have to unit the two.

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Ignite

on Jul 30, 2004

Points Proven!
From: Ignite
Date: 06 Jul 2004
Time: 19:56:04

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I started the topic "Telling It Like It Is" with the idea of proving some points. I hereby closed this topic having proven the points I set out to prove, these points being, 1) this forum alone will not be useful in resolving your issues, you need some movements within your individual afochas. 2) The forum lacks divers views and opinions on the issues at hand, as shown in the topic I introduced, “Telling It Like It Is”, there were just two participants. 3) Even if there are enough participants, their contributions are such that meaningful discussion is not possible for nobody stay focused on the issue at hand long enough to discuss the topic and reach a logical conclusion; as shown by the only two participants, “The community” and “Hareri”. Therefore those of you who are really concerned, while being active on this forum, should also think about creating ways to involve your community leadership in your own individual communities. Also while taking part on this forum, we should all stay focused on the topic at hand and avoid being confrontational. The best way to stay positive and focused is to keep your response to the point and relevant to the topic under discussion, in so doing we will be able to bring all topics under discussion to their logical conclusions. KEEP IT SIMPLE AND POSITIVE!!

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Ignite

on Jul 30, 2004

For the Web Master
From: Ignite
Date: 09 Jul 2004
Time: 23:24:42

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Permission to play “hardball” I want to create a new topic called “Let Us Play Hardball” the purpose is to moderate a question and answer session between the two parties. The two parties are those who are dug in, holding their own positions, as to who is responsible for the splitting of the “Afocha.” During these proceedings, I want the two parties answering three fundamental questions, while making their own case or point. These questions are 1) Do you believe there are issues/problems? 2) How did the issues/problems arise? 3) How do you resolve them? When I deem necessary and at a time of my choosing, I will intervene and bring this particular question and answer session to its “logical” conclusions. Are you game Mr. Web Master? Let me know, cause I am drafting the rules for this session. I am not only asking permission but also seeking cooperation from you to facilitate smooth forum by removing unhelpful posts from the “threads” we will be utilizing for these sessions. Thanks.

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your community

on Jul 30, 2004

Re: For the Web Master
From: your community
Date: 12 Jul 2004
Time: 18:39:09

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Just a memento: Do you all know that the people who created all this chaos are still working as elected officials on both AFOCHAs? Consequently, no matters what have been said in this discussion forum or anywhere else, these elected officials don’t want hear about it. Furthermore, if anyone brings the issue to the surface, they put sanction on it. That is way we all going back to the same circle. Keep in mind, how many times the opening part of the issue (are they willing to sit down and work out their differences?) had been discussed. 1st Abdi, 2nd SJ1, and now ignite and goes on and on and on and on unless the first part of the issue gets attention from both sides. Therefore, here is my suggestion to Ignite, if you’re truly serious and want to get to the bottom of the issue, make sure they pay attention to your opening statement and see if they’re staid too. If you succeed in this, the rest will be much easier. Insha Allah.

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concerned guest

on Jul 30, 2004

Re: For the Web Master
From: concerned guest
Date: 14 Jul 2004
Time: 06:16:22

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Can you please leave your problem a side let us help our peopl in harar. can we set somthing fo rwater project?. Let us have Water project weekend all over the world that weekend and collect donation. we can solve the short term water problem by letting them dig hole in 5 beris.

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Harari

on Jul 30, 2004

Re: For the Web Master
From: Harari
Date: 13 Jul 2004
Time: 14:05:34

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Ignite, if you just get the leaders of both sides attention or involvement one way or another from the get go,your success is for sure! I think, Your Community Knew it and I agree. Just a thought!

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your community

on Jul 30, 2004

Re: For the Web Master
From: your community
Date: 13 Jul 2004
Time: 20:13:19

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Yes, indeed! That is where the sizzling pan is?

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Concerned

on Jul 30, 2004

Re: For the Web Master
From: Concerned
Date: 12 Jul 2004
Time: 13:37:56

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Get your own IGNITE DISCUSSION FORUM!

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on Jul 30, 2004

Re: For the Web Master
From: JC
Date: 12 Jul 2004
Time: 15:22:40

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To Concerned: We already have functional DISCUSSION FORUM for our need & I do see the necessity to have another one. Unless you desire to split our thought!

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concerned

on Jul 30, 2004

Re: For the Web Master
From: concerned
Date: 12 Jul 2004
Time: 15:29:20

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Hi JC heheheeheeee Think! Thanks

Redwan Ahmed

on Jul 30, 2004

Re: For the Web Master
From: Redwan Ahmed
Date: 11 Jul 2004
Time: 11:45:02

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Dear brother/Sister, First of all I want you to be aware of that I am responding to your inquiry as a concerned Harari, but not as the Webmaster. Next, if you are in fact concerned and would like to discuss any topic, I think you need to identify your self so that everybody knows whom we are conversing with. Then will take it from there. Thank you for your concern.

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Ignite

on Jul 30, 2004

Re: For the Web Master
From: Ignite
Date: 11 Jul 2004
Time: 16:34:35

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It does not make any sense when you say, "if you are in fact concerned and would like to discuss any topic, I think you need to identify your self" Your statement begs the question, why now? If the requirement to discussing any topic is to identify one self then we both know you Discussion Forum would have been blank, of course there are few exceptions where individuals put their real names. So I ask YOU again, what is up with this new requirement and why now?

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unk

on Jul 30, 2004

Re: For the Web Master
From:
Date: 12 Jul 2004
Time: 07:18:57

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Ignite, with all the respect, I don’t see any problem with Redwan’s response. To me it sounds legitimate. One thing Redwan failed to point out is, your way is no different than Abdi’s and SJ1’s.

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Redwan Ahmed

on Jul 30, 2004

Re: For the Web Master
From: Redwan Ahmed
Date: 11 Jul 2004
Time: 20:37:24

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Sorry, I am not introducing a new requirement. I just want to know whom I am conversing with. Other than that, feel free to post what is in your mind. Just a word of caution: Be responsible for your postings!

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ignite

on Jul 30, 2004

Re: For the Web Master
From: ignite
Date: 11 Jul 2004
Time: 22:46:29

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Thank you!

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Last changed: July 11, 2004

on Jul 30, 2004

Re: For the Web Master
From: JC
Date: 13 Jul 2004
Time: 12:33:01

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Mr/Mrs or Miss ignite, I’m waiting to take part in your game. If you have it, go ahead & post it. I’m certain each of us “including your self” would like to have a tittle-tattle topic for a weekend gathering. So what are you waiting for Mr.?

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